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Offline kane  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 02, 2013 3:55:18 AM(UTC)
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"10 lbs red apples 8 lbs cane sugar 2.5 cups pure honey 1 cup molasses and pure rain water for 8 gallons
BigGrin"
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#2 Posted : Monday, September 02, 2013 9:57:05 AM(UTC)
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Hello Kane, Cook the apples, mash them up, dissolve sugar, honey, molasses and top off to 8 gals?
Then add yeast when 85 or 90 degrees?
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#3 Posted : Monday, September 02, 2013 11:43:46 AM(UTC)
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yes sir just like that its bubbling like the little engine that could
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#4 Posted : Friday, September 13, 2013 8:41:11 AM(UTC)
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10 lbs red apples 8 lbs cane sugar 2.5 cups pure honey 1 cup molasses and pure rain water for 8 gallons
BigGrin


Kane, how did this come out?? Did it make much apple flavor in the finished product?? How did you still it? Did you smash and pulverize the apples before fermentation?
8 lbs of sugar should have made several qts of keepers after the cuts were made!

Oh and why on earth would you use rain water???????"
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#5 Posted : Friday, September 13, 2013 9:33:55 AM(UTC)
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used rain water because the Indians recipe i seen / i boiled it first
yes it has a nice apple flavor
i just cut up the apples cores and all, simmered them for a hour, then added the sugar, honey and molasses, cinnamon and nutmeg, let it cool over night
it was hard not to drink right then lol
it was still over a hundred in the morning, added the cleaned rain water to pitching temp ,let it sit two weeks fermented right up to 20 p
then i got my electric heater with the temp controller nice unit from mile high , but it kicked it out so hot it evaporated / steamed away 3 gallons out of a 8 gallon wash and only yielded a gallon
100 p so trying it again on the re run , sugared it again nothing else and will wait 30 days for the next run and i will watch that electric heater closely and shut it off early so it dont overheat it again and back to my regular heat source the stove lol
its great for heat up 8 gallons was running in a hour and ten min / plus steaming lol
hope that covers everything
oh and i sliced up some apple slices and dropped those in the gallon to add even more apple flavor very palatable
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#6 Posted : Friday, September 13, 2013 11:42:34 PM(UTC)
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"So after all is said and done - you captured 1 gallon of 100 proof out of 5 gallons of wash? ( you said 3 gallons evaporated )

You said - sugared it again nothing else...does that mean you sugared the backset and then re-fermented it??

You said it evaporated lots of you goodies....dont you use a candenser on your still???

8 gallons on your stove - wow I bet thats a load!!!!

Anyway good luck and hopefully you'll get all the bugs worked out and make it all come together."
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#7 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:45:11 AM(UTC)
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So after all is said and done - you captured 1 gallon of 100 proof out of 5 gallons of wash? ( you said 3 gallons evaporated )

You said - sugared it again nothing else...does that mean you sugared the backset and then re-fermented it??

You said it evaporated lots of you goodies....dont you use a candenser on your still???

8 gallons on your stove - wow I bet thats a load!!!!

Anyway good luck and hopefully you'll get all the bugs worked out and make it all come together.


give or take
of coarse i have a liebig
these where just rough answers to the questions
and yes i just re started it with sugar
every batch just about needs its own adjustments and tweaks that is what makes it fun

problem ?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2013 9:47:15 AM(UTC)
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give or take
of coarse i have a liebig
these where just rough answers to the questions
and yes i just re started it with sugar
every batch just about needs its own adjustments and tweaks that is what makes it fun

problem ?


No problem...just thinking into what you typed I guess. If you steamed away 3 gallons of your wash that would make ME think you have no way of condensing your distillate. But if it works for you then cool.
And as to the restart..I have heard of others that add sugar back to the slop or backset and referment it and they say it does work a few more times then the ph gets to high for healthy yeast. Now most folks use 25% backset (whats left in your still after distillation) in the next wash and call that the next generation.

It just sounded like alot of captured hooch form a 5 gallon run -- my thinking was no cuts were made, but if its good to you thats all that matters. So no worries and happy hoochin."
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#9 Posted : Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:05:27 AM(UTC)
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10/4 yea i was just generalizing the amounts as i do that anyways / just round everything off I / didnt measure it i just guesstimated
and yea the electric heater was way to hot the distlit was even hot as i said it was dripping and steaming 8 gallon wash 10 % abv and i only got a gallon
so the rest went into lala land i was thinking at least 1.5 gallons on a single run
oh well like i said i know now to be carefuller with that thing , and just use it as a extra heat source for start up .
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:35:27 AM(UTC)
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I'd like to try your recipe. What kind of yeast did you use?
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:49:20 AM(UTC)
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:54:40 AM(UTC)
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Great, thanks!
Offline kane  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:30:38 AM(UTC)
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the sliced apples in the finished product will discolor it a bit / so its a option and i took the slices back out after a few days
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