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Offline heeler  
#1 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2012 2:30:37 AM(UTC)
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"This is a fresh corn likker that you can make with frozen corn from the supermarket or the corn from your garden. This is a 5 gallon wash.....

10 to 15 ears of corn cut off the ears or 5 little bags of sweet frozen corn.
5 lbs of sugar
3 tbl spoons of nutrients, Brewhaus Nutrients has the enzymes in there
8 tablespoons of bakers yeast
you will need the enzymes if you use bakers yeast
or use a yeast with enzymes like a whiskey yeast w/AG 1 pkg.

== most dont recommend Turbo yeast with this==

(a squirt of lemon juice and beanno tabs of you dont have enzymes, these are faux enzymes)

Now once the corn is off the cob smash it good because your gonna heat it up to get the cornny flavor in your mash. Put that corn in 1 or 2 gallons of water and turn on the heat, the idea is not to cook it just get hot and remove the corn flavor. You'll see and smell the corn flavor in your pot. Hold it at temp (150 or so) for 60 mins then pour liquid only over everything else EXCEPT your yeast. That will melt your sugar and mix everything together. Then once you stir and mix top with cool water to get to pitching temp. This will take a week or so to ferment depending on your choice of yeast.
Now if you put this through a relux still it will strip the flavor so pot still it and you should get a cornny flavored likker. Remember what you get is only as good as your wash and the way you still and cut. Happy stillinCool"
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#2 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2012 4:42:31 AM(UTC)
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"Heeler,
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3 tbl spoons of enzymes (for conversion)


Are you using GA-100 for this? ... or something else?

--JB"
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#3 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2012 7:01:07 AM(UTC)
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"Not sure it matters much....I have used Fermax but now I have a jug of Brewhaus Distillers Nutrients.
Nutrients are nutrients are nutrients....know what I mean????BigGrin"
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#4 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2012 7:11:38 AM(UTC)
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"I made a correction to the previous post,

3 tbl spoons of nutrients, Brewhaus Nutrients has vitamins and minerals plus the yeast nutreints - Ammonium Phosphate and Mag. Sulphate"
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#5 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2012 7:36:45 AM(UTC)
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"Ok, thanks.

I have been investigating the enzymes and running some numbers for use with potato & rice ... that sort of thing. And when I saw 3 tbl, I thought, man, I must have screwed up my math somewhere.

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--JB"
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:03:37 AM(UTC)
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"If you can figure out which enzymes are actually in apple cider vinegar you'll know more than 99% of the people that sell it. My mother made me use some as a hair wash once to help with a small patch of psoriasis -- I had this weird craving for salad the rest of the day. :)

BTW: Doesn't vinegar kill yeast?"
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#7 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:41:16 AM(UTC)
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dry or liquid malt extract from the brewing supply work well in place of nutrients
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#8 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:47:20 AM(UTC)
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"
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If you can figure out which enzymes are actually in apple cider vinegar you'll know more than 99% of the people that sell it. My mother made me use some as a hair wash once to help with a small patch of psoriasis -- I had this weird craving for salad the rest of the day. :)

BTW: Doesn't vinegar kill yeast?

allot of bearded people (competition beards and such) use apple cider vinegar to wash their beards with instead of any kind of shampoo its less damaging just a little fyi"
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#9 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:23:45 AM(UTC)
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Enzymes is a name for a certain class of proteins, like "metal" is for a class of compounds; there are jillions of different enzymes in any organism. We want specific enzymes such as amylase, the ones that break starch down to sugar so the yeast can ferment it. Not a lot of starch in apples. There are more starch digestors in your saliva than in a bushel of apples.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:27:21 PM(UTC)
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"20K units....assume that's per capsule?
Amylase breaks down starch to sugar; protease breaks down protein, lipase breaks down fat(lipids). This would work.....problem is its very spendy and you'd need at 8-10 capsules ( I've done it, health food store, $26 per 200). Its actually worth it to get malted stuff from a beer brew store, ton's of amylase.......or sprout your own grain. Of course if you have an in with a science chemical company or a professional beer brewer..........."
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#11 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:48:01 AM(UTC)
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Mixed up a batch of this last night, used 20 ears, on sale for a nickel apiece at the Farmers market....which was a bit odd cuz its a bit too early for cheap corn here. Flipped him a nickel, ate one there and jumped at it the deal. Bubbling away right now
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#12 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:50:43 AM(UTC)
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does it matter in what shape the corn comes off the cob? i dont see myself being patient enough to not be just a mushy pile of cream corn
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#13 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:54:56 AM(UTC)
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"Mr X...
Nah, I cut the kernals off, squashed it up and ran a stick blender through it...turned into a thick pasty mess. Smelled and tasted like, well, fresh corn on the cobBigGrin"
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#14 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:58:23 AM(UTC)
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ok cool just making surei may just get a bunch of flaked maizefrom the brewing suipply cause im lazy
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#15 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 7:48:19 AM(UTC)
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I bet you would get more flavor from the bought flaked maize but it dont really matter.
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